Fotoalbum.hu

Rövid magyar nyelvű összefoglaló

(A short summary in Hungarian)

• A fotoalbum.hu weboldala 2015 júliusától – a kezdőlaptól eltekintve – nem üzemel.
• Azóta különböző közlemények jelentek meg a főoldalon, melyek szerint az adatbázis sérült meg, ezért nem lehet rendesen használni az oldalt, de a képek megvannak.
• Tekintettel azonban arra, hogy – a hiba jellegét tekintve is – aránytalanul hosszú ideig nem történt meg az oldal helyreállítása, e sorok írójának az a személyes következtetése, hogy a tulajdonosok nem kívánják tovább üzemeltetni a szolgáltatást.
• E sorok írója 2016 februárjában felajánlotta az ArchiveTeam segítségét az oldal teljes tartalmának archiválásában, de a CEWE Kft. (az üzemeltető) képviselője ezt elutasította. Így az ArchiveTeam tehetetlen az ügyben.
• Egy felhasználó jelezte 2016. március 7-én (jelenleg ez az utolsó értesülésem), hogy a cég reagált a megkeresésére és visszaadta a képeit.
  • Ugyanakkor közölték vele, hogy legkésőbb 2016. április 19-ig töltse le a képeit tartalmazó zip fájlt. (Ez jelentheti azt, hogy az ő személyes csomagját addig tartják meg, de jelentheti a szolgáltatás végleges leállásának és a képek törlésének dátumát is.)

Mit kell tennie?

Haladéktalanul kérje ki a képeit!

• Ehhez – a főoldalon szereplő útmutatás alapján – írjon egy ilyen tárgyú emailt az info@fotoalbum.hu címre, megadva benne nevét, felhasználónevét, jelszavát, valamint fotoalbum.hu URL-jét (a webcímet, amin keresztül albumait ill. felhasználói lapját elérte, pl. felhasznalonev.fotoalbum.hu).
  • Ha netán nem működne a cím (failure notice érkezik vissza vagy csak sokáig nem válaszolnak), próbálkozzon az info@cewe.hu címmel.

Továbbá, ha lehet:

• Kérem, hogy tapasztalatait küldje el a vichratimot@euromail.hu címre, hogy itt frissíthessük az állapotinformációkat.
• Mondja el a fentieket olyan ismerőseinek is, akiknek szintén ragadtak be képei a fotoalbum.hu-n!

Nincs mire várni, cselekedjen mielőbb!

-- Vichra Timót (bzc6p), 2016. március 7.

Fotoalbum.hu
Fotoalbum.hu, a Hungarian photo hosting and album managing site
URL	http://fotoalbum.hu[IA•Wcite•.today•MemWeb]
Status	Closing
Archiving status	Not saved yet
Archiving type	Unknown
IRC channel	#archiveteam-bs (on hackint)

fotoalbum.hu is probably the biggest Hungarian image hosting service. Registered users can upload unlimited number of photographs, placed into albums. Since its start in 2006, more than 19 million photos have been uploaded into ~246,000 albums, by ~46,000 users (as of December 2014).

Since July 2015 the website is not operating, the content is not accessible. According to the main page notices, it seems that the content is not lost but a database problem occured, which is said to be being worked on.

user:bzc6p contacted the owner CEWE Kft. in February 2016 asking for cooperation, suggesting several ways of archiving the site, offering the help of Archive Team and the storage of Internet Archive, and emphasizing our will to preserve the content. Their representative, in his reply, thanked the suggestion, but said they were unable (or unwilling) to (let us) archive the content of fotoalbum.hu "in such a way". (Expressions in parantheses are there because the phrasing of the reply was ambiguous.)

"Nem áll módunkban a Fotoalbum.hu tartalmának ilyen módon történő archiválása."

Given the circumstances, user:bzc6p considers this a nasty way of shutting down, so if you have any photos there, request them in email ASAP before they are actually deleted!

Vital signs

Technical issues

The site is sophisticated and their service is of good quality. No performance issues experienced...

2015 crash

...until summer 2015. On June 15 everything seemed fine. Then – probably early in July – something happened and an August 1 snapshot shows the site with a single notice reading "The site is temporarily unreachable due to technical reasons. We ask for your understanding.". On September 19 a longer and quite optimistic announcement could be read:

"Dear User, Visitor,

Our site is currently unreachable due to a server issue. The uploaded images are all available. We are constantly working on restoring data and operation of fotoalbum.hu.

We ask for your understanding and patience.

The earliest expected date of the site's restarting: 2015-10-12."

However, as of October 23, the notice has changed to a more menacing one:

"Dear User, Visitor,

Our site is currently unreachable due to a server issue. We are constantly working on restoring data and operation of fotoalbum.hu.

You can read about the rulings for suspension/termination of the service in the General Terms and Conditions of Service here.

We ask for your understanding and patience."

(The Terms have nothing special, there is the usual "We reserve the right to change the service in any ways, including suspending or cancelling the service, and also deleting users' uploaded images.", and the disclaimer of liability for such cases.)

Note that the availability of the pictures is not mentioned in the second notice, but "termination of the service" is there instead.

Early in July, two threads got started on GyakoriKerdesek.hu in this topic where users freaked out:

• http://www.gyakorikerdesek.hu/szamitastechnika__egyeb-kerdesek__6997109-ki-tudja-hogy-mi-tortent-a-wwwfotoalbumhu-val-mar-masodik-napja-nem-erem-e
• http://www.gyakorikerdesek.hu/szamitastechnika__egyeb-kerdesek__7001210-mi-tortent-a-wwwfotoalbumhu-val

There a user suggested that fotoalbum.hu had moved to fotoalbum.eu. This is probably not true, as fotoalbum.eu is a long-existing international service, having the same style and also Hungarian interface for years. Indeed, fotoalbum.hu users' albums don't seem to be available there.

The fotoalbum.hu subdomains (users' sites with their albums) present now the web server's default page. (example (snapshot))

UPDATE: On or around 2015-11-25 (file modification date), the notice on fotoalbum.hu changed to the following:

"Dear fotoalbum.hu user,

An error occured with fotoalbum.hu servers' database.

Without the database, sorting and rescuing the images and identifying the corresponding users is a longer process.

We are currently working on restoring the database so that the fotoalbum.hu site can operate normally again.

All your photos are available and in safety.

If you would like to download your images uploaded to the site, please request it from our customer service (info@cewe.hu) by providing the following information:

The necessary information:

Name:

Username:

Password:

fotoalbum.hu access url:

After identifying your images we will get back to you.

We will try to fulfill your request as soon as possible.

You can read about the rulings for suspension/termination of the service in the General Terms and Conditions of Service here.

We ask for your understanding and patience.

CEWE Hungary Ltd."

On 2016-03-07, a user reported that she successfully contacted info@fotoalbum.hu and also received her images (except ones from year 2015). She was, however, asked to download her archive latest until 2016-04-19. (This may mean they'll keep her specific archive file until that date, but might also mean that the images would not be available at all starting that time.)

Administrator activity

An outsider can't find out how active the admins are. The policies, documentation etc. seem to be years old (from the dates). This doesn't mean they don't do anything. Also, the site can run on its own.

Financial status

The company behind the site offers photo development service, which seems to be profitable: the company makes good profit. How much it costs to run a site with tens of terabytes of data (20 million photos must be about this amount), and how much it takes from the profit, is unknown, but we probably don't need to worry about the site. (fotoalbum.hu also serves as an advertising place for the company: it offers its services for photos uploaded there.)

Site structure

Uploading to the site needs registration. It seems that photos can be uploaded only into albums, so creating at least one album is also necessary. The user can set the availability of their albums: public, password protected, or private.

User pages: <USERNAME>.fotoalbum.hu

Album pages: <ALBUMNAME>.<USERNAME>.fotoalbum.hu

Image pages (with reduced sized photo): <ALBUMNAME>.<USERNAME>.fotoalbum.hu/viewpicture/pictureid/<PICTUREID>

Image pages (with full sized photo): <ALBUMNAME>.<USERNAME>.fotoalbum.hu/viewlarge/pictureid/<PICTUREID>

Reduced sized photo: static.fotoalbum.hu/picturepreview/<YYYY>/<MM>-<DD>/<USERNAME>/<FILENAME>.<EXT>

Full sized photo: static.fotoalbum.hu/picturezoom/<YYYY>/<MM>-<DD>/<USERNAME>/<FILENAME>.<EXT>

Where USERNAME, ALBUMNAME are ASCII alphanumeric; YYYY, MM, DD are date elements like in 2014-12-19; PICTUREID is a number which doesn't seem to be regular (incremental) for either a user or globally; FILENAME is an inner filename, maybe name of the original, postfixed with another number; <EXT> is its extension.

The site doesn't provide full index of the pictures, nor does allow to browse everything. However, it lists a huge lot of tags (really a lot, maybe all?), where all belonging pictures can be browsed (e.g. http://www.fotoalbum.hu/tags/2006&pageid=30, pageid can be changed). (But not all pictures have tags!) There is also a category list, so albums belonging to a specific category can be browsed similarly. From these all, a fair amount of pictures and albums could be discovered if necessary. It's uncertain if everything. (It depends: if every album must be given a category, and every category is listed, then yes. Possibly this is the case, because there are a lot of categories, and also one called "Everything else".)

Archives

Minimal amount (~45,000 URLs) in the Wayback Machine.