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* <span style="color: red">Tor connections generally disallowed/banned (exact policy varying per server)</span> | * <span style="color: red">Tor connections generally disallowed/banned (exact policy varying per server)</span> | ||
* <span style="color: red">policy varying per server (e.g. no bots allowed on some servers)</span> | * <span style="color: red">policy varying per server (e.g. no bots allowed on some servers)</span> | ||
* <span style="color: red">no IRCv3 support, and unlikely to ever be added</span> | |||
hackint: | hackint: | ||
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* <span style="color: green">permissive policy (anything legal per German and Dutch laws is allowed)</span> | * <span style="color: green">permissive policy (anything legal per German and Dutch laws is allowed)</span> | ||
* <span style="color: green">backed by like-minded people (Chaos Computer Club)</span> | * <span style="color: green">backed by like-minded people (Chaos Computer Club)</span> | ||
* <span style="color: green">(partial) IRCv3 support</span> | |||
* <span style="color: red">not very old</span> | * <span style="color: red">not very old</span> | ||
* <span style="color: | * <span style="color: orange">operated by regional chapters of the CCC</span> | ||
Stability comparison over about 4 months (end of August to end of December), excluding network issues on my side: | Stability comparison over about 4 months (end of August to end of December), excluding network issues on my side: | ||
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* EFnet: 8 disconnects, 68 netsplits of unknown total time because sometimes there is no proper rejoin of the split server; several server outages where everyone connected just suddenly times out, not easily trackable | * EFnet: 8 disconnects, 68 netsplits of unknown total time because sometimes there is no proper rejoin of the split server; several server outages where everyone connected just suddenly times out, not easily trackable | ||
* hackint: zero disconnects, four netsplits totalling less than 10 minutes (574 seconds) and rejoining cleanly every time | * hackint: zero disconnects, four netsplits totalling less than 10 minutes (574 seconds) and rejoining cleanly every time | ||
These numbers are based on connections from a server at OVH in Canada. The EFnet connections were to Colosolutions (New York); the hackint servers are in Germany and the Netherlands, but the details aren't known. | |||
Revision as of 01:46, 22 December 2019
EFnet:
- more decentralised
- old
- unstable (netsplits, server outages)
- ridiculous channel, nick, and topic length limits
- low channel join limits (i.e. how many channels you can join from one connection) on almost all servers; limit varies between servers such that a reconnect might cause join errors
- varying degrees of IPv6 and TLS support depending on the server; no valid TLS certificates anywhere
- no services
- broken web chat (silent truncation of long messages)
- Tor connections generally disallowed/banned (exact policy varying per server)
- policy varying per server (e.g. no bots allowed on some servers)
- no IRCv3 support, and unlikely to ever be added
hackint:
- stable
- services (automatic opping/voicing, proper access control for restricted channels)
- security: TLS required, valid TLS certificates (one of the few IRC networks!)
- Tor connections welcome
- accessibility (XMPP etc., though that's apparently not working properly at the moment)
- permissive policy (anything legal per German and Dutch laws is allowed)
- backed by like-minded people (Chaos Computer Club)
- (partial) IRCv3 support
- not very old
- operated by regional chapters of the CCC
Stability comparison over about 4 months (end of August to end of December), excluding network issues on my side:
- EFnet: 8 disconnects, 68 netsplits of unknown total time because sometimes there is no proper rejoin of the split server; several server outages where everyone connected just suddenly times out, not easily trackable
- hackint: zero disconnects, four netsplits totalling less than 10 minutes (574 seconds) and rejoining cleanly every time
These numbers are based on connections from a server at OVH in Canada. The EFnet connections were to Colosolutions (New York); the hackint servers are in Germany and the Netherlands, but the details aren't known.