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<DIV style="background-color:yellow; padding: 5px; width:80%; margin-bottom:20px; margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; text-align:center"><P style="font-size:x-large">'''Elindult az <span class="plainlinks">[http://archiveteam.hu archiveteam.hu]</span>!'''</P><P>Magyar nyelvű információk az ArchiveTeam tevékenységéről, illetve a magyar weboldalak sorsáról!</P><P style="font-size:x-large">'''Elindult az <span class="plainlinks">[http://archiveteam.hu/rszi RSZI]</span> magyar webarchívum!'''</P><P>3 képfeltöltő szolgáltatás közel '''2,5 millió, a Wayback Machine-ból sem elérhető képe''' újra hozzáférhető!</B></P></DIV>
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<td style="text-align:center; font-size:150%; font-weight:bold"><p>Farewell to the old archive.org interface.</p><p>2002–2016</p><p>It will be missed.</p></td>
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'''bzc6p''' is a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary Hungarian] amateur archivist who joined the efforts of ArchiveTeam. "Specialized" in watching and saving Hungarian websites.


[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungary Hungarian] amateur who joined the efforts of ArchiveTeam. "Specialized" in watching and saving Hungarian websites.
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'''Contact: <code>vichratimot (at) euromail (dot) hu</code>'''
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Not been doing much spectacular activity recently, but still operating my long-running projects in my, now much less, free time. You may, however, successfully contact me on my [[User_talk:bzc6p|talk page]] or via email if necessary.
<font color="red">'''Kapcsolat: <code>vichratimot (kukac) euromail (pont) hu</code>'''</font>


'''Contact: <code>vichratimot (at) euromail (dot) hu</code>'''
See [https://archive.org/details/@bzc6p what I'm archiving].
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=== Large websites ===
=== Large websites ===
* [[myVIP]] ({{orange|in progress}})
* [[network.hu]]
* [[kepfeltoltes.hu]] ({{blue|continuous}})
* [[TVN.hu]]
* [[Indafotó]]
* [[myVIP]]
* [[kepfeltoltes.hu]]
* [[kephost.com]]
* Selected [[YouTube]] videos, as part of [[News+C/hu|News+C]] project


=== Medium-sized websites ===
=== Medium-sized websites ===
* [[videok.hu]]
* [[ingyenweb.hu]]
* [[kepfeltoltes.eu]] ({{blue|continuous}})
* [[Szuperinfó]]
* [https://444.hu 444.hu], as part of [[News+C/hu]] ({{blue|continuous}})
* [https://hvg.hu hvg.hu], as part of [[News+C/hu]] ({{blue|continuous}})
* [https://kuruc.info kuruc.info], as part of [[News+C/hu]] ({{blue|continuous}})
* [[pics.coldline.hu]]
* [http://nol.hu nol.hu] ([https://archive.org/details/nol_hu_2017 archive])
* [[Wikispot]]
* [[Wikispot]]
* [[PSharing]] ({{blue|continuous}})
* [[PSharing]]
* [[keptarad.hu]]
* [[keptarad.hu]]
* [[kepkezelo.com]] ({{blue|continuous}})
* [[kepkezelo.com]] ({{blue|continuous}})
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=== Small websites ===
=== Small websites ===


* [http://dagalyfurdo.hu Dagály Fürdő] ([http://archive.org/details/dagalyfurdo_hu_20161010 archive])
* [http://wirtschaftsblatt.at WirtschaftsBlatt] ([http://archive.org/details/wirtschaftsblatt_at_articles archive])
* [http://balassiintezet.hu Balassi Intézet] ([http://archive.org/details/balassiintezet_hu_20160829 archive])
* [http://hi.co hi.co] ([http://archive.org/details/hi_co_20160829 archive])
* [http://ketezer.hu 2000] ([http://archive.org/details/ketezer_hu_20160825 archive])
* [http://mozaiktv.rs Mozaik TV] ([http://archive.org/details/mozaiktv_rs_20160827 archive])
* [http://precedensnyelvstudio.hu Precedens Nyelvstúdió] ([http://archive.org/details/precedensnyelvstudio_hu_20160827 archive])
* [http://alomauto.eu Álomautó Múzeum] ([http://archive.org/details/alomauto_eu_20160827 archive])
* [[nolblog.hu]]
* [[nolblog.hu]]
* [[TVN.hu#tudjatok.hu|tudjatok.hu]]
* [[TVN.hu#tudjatok.hu|tudjatok.hu]]
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* [http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/bzc6p A few wikis] in the beginning.
* [http://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/bzc6p A few wikis] in the beginning.


== My to-do list ==
=== Non-web stuff ===
In order of urgency.
I'm also archiving some Hungarian TV and radio programmes, magazines and shop flyers.
 
== To-do list ==
Hungarian websites that should be saved in the near future. I don't reserve them as ''my'' projects, as I fear I won't have time for them soon.


# [[Fotoalbum.hu]] – currently crashed, keeping an eye on it
# [[blogger.hu]]
# [[TVN.hu]] websites – site seems to be okay, but company behind it is very much in the red for years now
# [[hotdog.hu]] – company that bought it performs very badly
# [[mindenkilapja.hu]] – owner seems okay but site is not cared of, full of spam
# [[Ingyenweb]] – a very old and obsoleted free webhosting site not cared for by the maintainer. Also sitting on some valuable domain names
# [[videok.hu]] – a video sharing site not (any more) too popular, not really cared for, owner same as the one of [[Ingyenweb]]


== Philosophy ==
== Philosophy ==
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== Recommended tools ==
== Recommended tools ==
Tools I've been using with satisfaction.


*Chfoo's [http://github.com/chfoo/wpull Wpull] for saving to [[WARC]]
=== Saving to [[WARC]] ===
** wget still lacks some handy features wpull already has got
* Chfoo's [http://github.com/chfoo/wpull Wpull]: a good alternative to wget, still being developed, with good archiving support
* Ikreymer's [http://webrecorder.io webrecorder.io] when things are too difficult
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wget wget]: faster, but lacks some handy features wpull already has got, and is pretty much in its final state
*Alard's [https://github.com/alard/warc-proxy warc-proxy] or Ikreymer's [https://github.com/ikreymer/webarchiveplayer webarchiveplayer] for testing WARCs
* Internet Archive's [https://github.com/internetarchive/warcprox warcprox]: provides a proxy to your web browser, so you can easily create WARCs as you browse, if it's just a few pages
*Kngenie's [https://github.com/kngenie/ias3upload ias3upload] for uploading to [[Internet Archive|IA]]
* Ikreymer's [http://webrecorder.io webrecorder.io]: concept similar to warcprox, but you don't need to install anything, WARC is generated remotely (you can also install it, but it needs Docker)
**You may like the [https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive internetarchive] tool better, but I haven't used that yet.
 
=== Replaying WARCs ===
* Alard's [https://github.com/alard/warc-proxy warc-proxy]: using a proxy, provides accurate replay, but doesn't support HTTPS, and development seems to be stopped
* Ikreymer's [https://github.com/ikreymer/webarchiveplayer webarchiveplayer]: doesn't use a proxy, works similarly to the Wayback Machine, but because of that, some URLs are not rewritten in the files, and may not play back properly
 
=== Uploading to [[Internet Archive|IA]] ===
* Kngenie's [https://github.com/kngenie/ias3upload ias3upload]: just uploading, and needs a metadata CSV-file beforehand, but otherwise works fine
* IA-developed [https://pypi.python.org/pypi/internetarchive internetarchive]: more versatile tool (upload, download, search etc.)
* Direct use of the [http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt Internet Archive S3 API] with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cURL curl] program. The above uploading tools are based on this interface.


== Further plans ==
== Further plans ==
I hope one day I can re-host Hungarian websites that are dead now but have been archived. Or, at least, create a Wayback Machine for Hungarian websites, that would also serve as a mirror to the corresponding Internet Archive items.
I hope one day I can re-host Hungarian websites that are dead now but have been archived. Or, at least, create a Wayback Machine for Hungarian websites, that would also serve as a mirror to the corresponding Internet Archive items.


I would also be glad to record Hungarian radio and television channels' programme 24/7, but that would require a vast amount of resources.
As for the [[URL Team]] project, given that the discovered URLs have not been saved in WARC format (yet) but in a format difficult to access and read, a shorturl-resolver service for already gone URL shorteners would be useful. It would be kind of a Wayback Machine for URL shorteners. It wouldn't even be difficult to set up, based on URL Team databases.
 
I would also be glad to record Hungarian radio and television channels' programme 24/7, but that would require a vast amount of resources, Until / instead of that, I'm collecting some recordings of notable Hungarian TV and radio programmes and moments from [[YouTube]] (and of course, I'm uploading them to the Archive).


== Hungarian articles about Archive Team ==
== Hungarian articles about Archive Team ==
Below I've collected online Hungarian news articles published about Archive Team that I've been able to find. The list is in reversed chronological order.
Below I've collected online Hungarian news articles published about Archive Team that I've been able to find. The list is in reversed chronological order.


*I've proudly discovered that Archive Team got its own [https://webarchivum.oszk.hu/mediawiki/index.php?title=Archive_Team article] (among ''Organizations'') on the [https://webarchivum.oszk.hu/mediawiki/index.php?title=MIA_WIKI knowledge base] of the Hungarian Internet Archive, that is, the Web Archiving Department of National Széchényi Library, the national library of Hungary! (Date: 2017-07-25).
*Péter Szűcs: ''[http://itcafe.hu/hir/az_internet_nem_felejt.html Az internet nem felejt]'' (''The internet doesn't forget''). itcafe.hu, 2015-03-05. (About ArchiveTeam's activity in general.)
*Péter Szűcs: ''[http://itcafe.hu/hir/az_internet_nem_felejt.html Az internet nem felejt]'' (''The internet doesn't forget''). itcafe.hu, 2015-03-05. (About ArchiveTeam's activity in general.)
*Dániel Dojcsák: ''[http://www.hwsw.hu/hirek/51400/blip-videomegoszto-online-tartalom-premium-torles-arhivum.html Elpusztulhat a nem profitképes online tartalom]'' (''Non-profitable online content may vanish''). hwsw.hu, 2013-12-03. (Mentions ArchiveTeam saving [[Blip.tv|Blip]] videos.)
*Dániel Dojcsák: ''[http://www.hwsw.hu/hirek/51400/blip-videomegoszto-online-tartalom-premium-torles-arhivum.html Elpusztulhat a nem profitképes online tartalom]'' (''Non-profitable online content may vanish''). hwsw.hu, 2013-12-03. (Mentions ArchiveTeam saving [[Blip.tv|Blip]] videos.)

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3 képfeltöltő szolgáltatás közel 2,5 millió, a Wayback Machine-ból sem elérhető képe újra hozzáférhető!

bzc6p is a Hungarian amateur archivist who joined the efforts of ArchiveTeam. "Specialized" in watching and saving Hungarian websites.

Contact: vichratimot (at) euromail (dot) hu

Not been doing much spectacular activity recently, but still operating my long-running projects in my, now much less, free time. You may, however, successfully contact me on my talk page or via email if necessary.

See what I'm archiving.


My projects

Websites that I've archived, I'm archiving or I've took part in organizing their archival, in reversed chronological order in each category. If the website has an entry on this wiki, consult that page for the archives. If not, a link to the archives should be found in the appropriate line.

Large websites

Medium-sized websites

Small websites

Non-web stuff

I'm also archiving some Hungarian TV and radio programmes, magazines and shop flyers.

To-do list

Hungarian websites that should be saved in the near future. I don't reserve them as my projects, as I fear I won't have time for them soon.

  1. blogger.hu

Philosophy

My experience with my few website archiving endavours so far suggests that there are very few websites today that can be mirrored completely in automated ways without human control and intervention. Thus, if one wants to make quality archives even of a small website, it needs more or less attention, often additional work, or several, supplemental runs of archiving tools.

These archiving tools (wget, wpull, ArchiveBot etc.) are very important and useful, but in most cases, are themselves incapable of making complete archives. My philosophy is that we should do as complete and quality archives as possible, if we set off on the journey of archiving a website, so we cannot rely solely on these tools. Of course, constrained by time and resources, we must make a compromise. Otherwise, however, the above applies. At least for me. This is how I archive.

Recommended tools

Saving to WARC

  • Chfoo's Wpull: a good alternative to wget, still being developed, with good archiving support
  • wget: faster, but lacks some handy features wpull already has got, and is pretty much in its final state
  • Internet Archive's warcprox: provides a proxy to your web browser, so you can easily create WARCs as you browse, if it's just a few pages
  • Ikreymer's webrecorder.io: concept similar to warcprox, but you don't need to install anything, WARC is generated remotely (you can also install it, but it needs Docker)

Replaying WARCs

  • Alard's warc-proxy: using a proxy, provides accurate replay, but doesn't support HTTPS, and development seems to be stopped
  • Ikreymer's webarchiveplayer: doesn't use a proxy, works similarly to the Wayback Machine, but because of that, some URLs are not rewritten in the files, and may not play back properly

Uploading to IA

  • Kngenie's ias3upload: just uploading, and needs a metadata CSV-file beforehand, but otherwise works fine
  • IA-developed internetarchive: more versatile tool (upload, download, search etc.)
  • Direct use of the Internet Archive S3 API with the curl program. The above uploading tools are based on this interface.

Further plans

I hope one day I can re-host Hungarian websites that are dead now but have been archived. Or, at least, create a Wayback Machine for Hungarian websites, that would also serve as a mirror to the corresponding Internet Archive items.

As for the URL Team project, given that the discovered URLs have not been saved in WARC format (yet) but in a format difficult to access and read, a shorturl-resolver service for already gone URL shorteners would be useful. It would be kind of a Wayback Machine for URL shorteners. It wouldn't even be difficult to set up, based on URL Team databases.

I would also be glad to record Hungarian radio and television channels' programme 24/7, but that would require a vast amount of resources, Until / instead of that, I'm collecting some recordings of notable Hungarian TV and radio programmes and moments from YouTube (and of course, I'm uploading them to the Archive).

Hungarian articles about Archive Team

Below I've collected online Hungarian news articles published about Archive Team that I've been able to find. The list is in reversed chronological order.