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A selection of reasons why ArchiveTeam should never use Discord (except possibly as a way for people to report shutdowns to us):
A selection of reasons why ArchiveTeam should never use Discord (except possibly as a way for people to report shutdowns to us):


&lt;Frogging> [Discord is] a proprietary, centralized protocol with a ToS that explicitly disallows third-party clients<br />
* Proprietary, centralised platform
&lt;Frogging> it's for-profit and likely to shut down or be sold off when it fails to make a profit, as all such services do eventually<br />
* Walled garden: hostile to third-party clients
&lt;Frogging> It's also antithetical to ArchiveTeam because it has no data migration story<br />
* Staunchly anti-privacy and will lock you out of your account about it<ref>{{URL|https://wowana.me/blog/guess-im-done-with-discord.xht}}</ref>
&lt;JAA> And we'd be breaking their ToS in a kind of impressive number of ways.<br />
* 'What's a "data migration"?' – Discord
&lt;Frogging> Seriously, Discord can fuck off forever.
* <s>Ridiculous terms of service: every "upload" of content that you do not own the exclusive rights for (quotes, pictures, memes, etc.) is a violation of Discord's terms. This would include even things released under a permissive license (e.g. Creative Commons) or in the public domain.<ref>{{URL|https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20200721/raw}}</ref></s> This was resolved in the February/March 2022 update of the terms.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/diff/20220225114658/20220225203039/https://discord.com/terms</ref>
* For profit without ads via premium subscriptions ('Nitro'), game sales, and other minor revenue sources, but yet to make a profit<ref>{{URL|https://www.cbinsights.com/research/report/how-discord-makes-money/}}</ref>


Summary of a discussion in #archiveteam-bs on hackint on 2020-07-21 ([https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20200721/raw logs]): every "upload" of content that you do not own the exclusive rights for (quotes, pictures, memes, etc.) is a violation of Discord's terms. This would include even things released under a permissive license (e.g. Creative Commons) or in the public domain.
Or, in summary:


Discord is staunchly anti-privacy and will lock you out of your account about it: https://wowana.me/blog/guess-im-done-with-discord.xht
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&lt;Frogging> Seriously, Discord can fuck off forever.
</blockquote>


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== References ==
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Revision as of 18:56, 13 May 2023

A selection of reasons why ArchiveTeam should never use Discord (except possibly as a way for people to report shutdowns to us):

  • Proprietary, centralised platform
  • Walled garden: hostile to third-party clients
  • Staunchly anti-privacy and will lock you out of your account about it[1]
  • 'What's a "data migration"?' – Discord
  • Ridiculous terms of service: every "upload" of content that you do not own the exclusive rights for (quotes, pictures, memes, etc.) is a violation of Discord's terms. This would include even things released under a permissive license (e.g. Creative Commons) or in the public domain.[2] This was resolved in the February/March 2022 update of the terms.[3]
  • For profit without ads via premium subscriptions ('Nitro'), game sales, and other minor revenue sources, but yet to make a profit[4]

Or, in summary:

<Frogging> Seriously, Discord can fuck off forever.

References

  1. ↑ https://wowana.me/blog/guess-im-done-with-discord.xht[IA•Wcite•.today•MemWeb]
  2. ↑ https://hackint.logs.kiska.pw/archiveteam-bs/20200721/raw[IA•Wcite•.today•MemWeb]
  3. ↑ https://web.archive.org/web/diff/20220225114658/20220225203039/https://discord.com/terms
  4. ↑ https://www.cbinsights.com/research/report/how-discord-makes-money/[IA•Wcite•.today•MemWeb]
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